R.O.G. Return on Generosity
A half hour interview show featuring innovative leaders who cultivate a culture of giving, belonging and thriving together. In each episode, we’ll explore how generosity at work impacts the bottom line and address cultural dynamics, team behavior and peer relationships.
Episodes

Tuesday Mar 01, 2022
73. Karen Bennett - Show Up On Time
Tuesday Mar 01, 2022
Tuesday Mar 01, 2022
73. Karen Bennett - Show Up On Time
“What generosity is..it's how you have willingness and desire to help others. And help is, frankly, in the eye of the beholder. Generosity is the willingness to make yourself available, whatever that looks like to what the recipient needs. So for me, generosity and the workplace honestly starts with time.”
Guest Info:
Karen Bennett is Executive Vice President and Chief People Officer for Cox Communications. In this role, she develops and executes talent strategy that aligns with Cox’s operating principles and works through the challenges of driving continual growth in our rapidly evolving business.
Bennett brings more than 25 years of experience in leading teams that focus on maximizing talent needs and the needs of the business across all areas of HR, including talent development, total rewards, employee relations, workforce culture, and policies and compliance.
Prior to joining Cox Communications, Karen was SVP and Chief Human Resources Officer for Cox Media Group, a sister company within Cox Enterprises. Prior to her time with Cox, Bennett was Senior Vice President and Chief Human Resources Officer for YP (formerly AT&T Ad Solutions). She is a cable veteran as well, having served as senior vice president of human resources for Turner Broadcasting System, Inc. for nearly 14 years.
Bennett serves on the board of directors for the Human Resources Leadership Forum of Atlanta; the Emma Bowen Foundation board of directors; the national board of Women in Cable Telecommunications (WICT); the advisory board of Clayton State University; the Georgia State University’s HR Roundtable consortium.
Bennett is a graduate of Terry College of Business at the University of Georgia where she earned her bachelor’s and executive MBA degrees.
Favorite Quote:
“We plan, God laughs.”
R.O.G. Takeaway Tips:
Be on time. Don’t waste time. Prepare for interactions to invest your time.
Generously offer to provide feedback when you recognize ways others can improve.
Celebrate the successes, advancements and accomplishments of others.
Resources:
Karen Bennet on LinkedIn (in/KebKarenBennet)
Karen Bennett, Cox Communications, EVP and Chief People Officer
Cox Communications
The WICT Network, Global Board of Directors
Coming Next:
Episode 74: we continue our Women’s History Month celebration and will be joined by Debbie Epstein Henry
Credits:
Karen Bennett, Sheep Jam Productions, Host Shannon Cassidy, Bridge Between, Inc.

Tuesday Feb 22, 2022
72. Michael Hudson - Lessons Earned
Tuesday Feb 22, 2022
Tuesday Feb 22, 2022
72. Michael Hudson - Lessons Earned
“The earned lesson point is one of these things that I think goes to how I believe we all need to be constantly and continuously improving, constantly assessing, evaluating, constantly asking ourselves what did that mean?”
Guest Info:
Michael Hudson is currently "The Professor" at Aspire Leadership, LLC. Aspire Leadership delivers transformational leadership development programs for emerging leaders, equipping them to build influence and create impact by putting people first.
During his tenure in academia, he spearheaded two nationally recognized business programs, one at Cornell University and the other at the University of Illinois, before leaving the academic world to turn to his entrepreneurial passions. Since then, he has helped over 3,000 businesses, entrepreneurs, non-profit organizations, and government agencies create their strategic visions and communicate them into existence.
Michael is committed to helping leaders unlock their true potential by using curiosity to drive growth, humility to build trust, and empathy to create connection.
Favorite Quote:
"I do the very best I know how-the very best I can; and I mean to keep doing so until the end. If the end brings me out all right, what is said against me won't amount to anything. If the end brings me out wrong, ten angels swearing I was right would make no difference." — Abe Lincoln
R.O.G. Takeaway Tips:
Be curious enough to ask;
Be humble enough to learn and;
Be empathetic enough to listen.
Resources:
AspireLeadership.com
Michael Hundson on LinkedIn (in/DrMichaelHudson)
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Coming Next:
Episode 73: We will be joined by Karen Bennett, EVP and Chief People Officer at Cox Communications
Credits:
Michael Hudson, Sheep Jam Productions, Host Shannon Cassidy, Bridge Between, Inc.

Tuesday Feb 15, 2022
71. Cianna Stewart - Dying Kindly
Tuesday Feb 15, 2022
Tuesday Feb 15, 2022
71. Cianna Stewart - Dying Kindly
“If you think about the impact that your death will have on the people that you leave behind, the people that you say that you love, then, you want that to be as good an experience as it can be in a really bad circumstance.”
Guest Info:
Cianna P. Stewart produces and hosts Dying Kindness, a podcast for people who are going to die someday. The goal is to help people make key decisions now in order to be kinder to those they’ll leave behind. Cianna’s varied resume includes community organizing, HIV prevention, nonprofit management, startups, theater, documentaries, and event production. Cianna’s tagline: Super curious about nearly everything.
Favorite Quote:
“This, too, shall pass.”
R.O.G. Takeaway Tips:
Create a back up plan so your talent can take vacation, time off and bereavement time.
Create a safe space for people to share about their circumstance and how you may be able to support them with flexibility or resources.
Set up your emergency contact information on your mobile device.
Plan thoughtfully so the people who will remain after you pass don’t have to carry the burden of figuring it all out while they are grieving.
Resources:
Cianna Stewart on Twitter (@Cianna)
DyingKindness.com
Dying Kindness Podcast
Dying Kindness Facebook Group
Dying Kindness Slack Channel
The No Complaining Project
No Complaints - How to Stop Sabotaging Your Own Joy by Cianna Stewart
How to Add Emergency Info to Your Phone's Lock Screen
Peace on Mind Planner by Pete Pauper Press
R.O.G. Ep 57. Wade Thomas - Heart Based Culture
Bridge Between Youtube Page (Additional Content with Cianna Stewart)`
Coming Next:
Episode 72: We will be joined by Michael Hudson, Aspire Leadership.
Credits:
Cianna Stweart, Sheep Jam Productions, Host Shannon Cassidy, Bridge Between, Inc.

Tuesday Feb 08, 2022
70. Lisa Chang - The Personal Investment of Gratitude
Tuesday Feb 08, 2022
Tuesday Feb 08, 2022
70. Lisa Chang - The Personal Investment of Gratitude
“You're human and humans cannot feasibly do all the things that you were trying to do at the same time.”
Guest Info:
Lisa Chang is the Global Chief People Officer for The Coca-Cola Company, overseeing the company’s talent and people strategies, culture, and diversity, equity and inclusion efforts. In her role, which she has held since 2019, she is responsible for leading the company’s global people strategy, aligned to the company’s purpose of refreshing the world and making a difference. Chang and her team are focused on creating an environment where employees can thrive and equips the organization to win. Prior to joining Coca-Cola, Chang served as senior vice president and chief human resources officer for AMB Group, LLC in Atlanta, a privately held sports and entertainment conglomerate. Chang has held HR roles at various companies, including Equifax, Turner Broadcasting System Inc. and The Weather Channel Companies. Chang serves on the Board of Advisors for Catalyst, a non-profit organization with a mission to accelerate progress for women through workplace inclusion. She also serves as a Board member for the Coca-Cola Scholars Foundation, Atlanta Symphony Orchestra and on the Board of Directors for Frontier Communications. Chang has a bachelor’s degree in communications from the University of Virginia. She earned an MBA from the Stetson School of Business and Economics at Mercer University.
Favorite Quote:
“I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel.” — Maya Angelou
R.O.G. Takeaway Tips:
Hand write thank-you notes
Create a psychologically safe space to listen
Treat mistakes as opportunities to grow
Resources:
Lisa Chang on Twitter (@LisaVChang)
Lisa Chang on LinkedIn (in/LisaVChang)
Lisa Chang - Global Chief People Officer at the Coca-Cola Company
R.O.G. Episode 25. AAPI Voices - Lisa Chang - The Coca-Cola Company
Coming Next:
Episode 71: We will be joined by Cianna Stewart
Credits:
Lisa Chang, Sheep Jam Productions, Host Shannon Cassidy, Bridge Between, Inc.

Tuesday Feb 01, 2022
69. Jeff Christian - The Power of Pizza
Tuesday Feb 01, 2022
Tuesday Feb 01, 2022
69. Jeff Christian - The Power of Pizza
“We put extra pressure on ourselves to have to do everything, to want to do everything. And if we can take that step back and realize, let me focus on what's truly essential in my life. And then to develop that gift and share it with the world and then allow.”
Guest Info:
Jeff Christian is a husband, father, registered nurse, basketball coach, podcast host of Life’s Essential Ingredients, and is the founder of the nonprofit organization––C4 Leaders. All proceeds from the sale of his books goes toward the nonprofit. C4 Leaders uses pizza and pizza making to build community at no financial cost to the participants. (Although, donations are accepted and appreciated). C4 Leaders is an authority in team building. Reach out to Jeff if you are interested in helping your team communicate better, build trusting relationships, and to be coachable.
Favorite Quote:
“It is trust in the limits of the self that makes us open. And it is trust in the gifts of others that makes us. We come to realize that we don't have to do everything that we can't do. Everything that what I can't do is someone else's gift and responsibility. My limitations make space for the gifts of other people.” — Sister Joan Chittister
R.O.G. Takeaway Tips:
What’s on our pizza?
How well do we model the 4C’s in our lives?
Communication: Listening to others with an empathetic ear with the intent of serving others.
Chemistry: Developing trust to bring and receive value from the connections in our lives.
Consistency: Consistently challenge our thoughts and perspectives accepting vulnerability.
Creativity: Overcoming fear to share our gift.
Resources:
Jeff Christian on LinkedIn
C4Leaders.org
PizzaDays.org
We Rise Together by Jeff Christian
Life's Essential Ingredients Podcast
Coming Next:
Episode 70, we will be joined by Lisa Chang, Chief People Officer, The Coca-Cola Company
Credits:
Jeff Christian, Sheep Jam Productions, Host Shannon Cassidy, Bridge Between, Inc.

Tuesday Jan 25, 2022
68. Sabrina Bailey - How Can I Help?
Tuesday Jan 25, 2022
Tuesday Jan 25, 2022
68. Sabrina Bailey - How Can I Help?
“Instead of a handout, a hand up. And what I mean by that is truly allowing we've got one employee in country (where we have a non-profit), truly allowing her vision to be cast. Our only role as the not-for-profit is to come alongside and to mentor, to coach, to guide and leadership philosophy.”
Guest Info:
Sabrina Bailey is the Global Head of Wealth Solutions at Refinitiv, an LSEG (London Stock Exchange Group) company, joining the company in May 2021. In this role Sabrina is responsible for developing and delivering upon the strategic vision and direction for Refinitiv’s global Wealth Solutions business. This includes embracing and leveraging technological advances to deliver innovative, customer-centric offerings. Sabrina is a proven senior level executive with over 20 years of financial services experience.
Prior to joining Refinitiv Sabrina held several senior executive positions, most recently as CEO of Emotomy, Northern Trust Asset Management’s digital investment advice offering. In her prior role at Northern Trust Sabrina was the Global Head of Retirement Solutions with responsibility for the development and deployment of Northern Trust’s retirement strategy globally. Prior to joining Northern Trust Sabrina held a variety of positions in executive leadership, management, investment consulting, and manager research at Mercer, Towers Watson, RogersCasey, and Arnerich Massena and Associates.
Sabrina has received several industry accolades. In 2020, Sabrina was named Top Women in Asset Management by Money Management Executive. In 2017, Sabrina was named Distinguished Woman Investment Professional of the year by Women Investment Professionals. In 2016, Sabrina was named a "40 under 40" by Crain’s Chicago Business, being selected for the business leadership honor from more than 1,000 nominees.
Outside of work Sabrina enjoys spending time with her husband of over 20 years and her 2 daughters. She is passionate about giving back to others through service, including serving on the Chicago Advisory Board of The Salvation Army, actively volunteering in the Roseland neighborhood of Chicago, and as the co-founder of Grow for Hope, a not-for-profit focused on empowering women in Sierra Leone Africa through education and employment. She is also an outdoor enthusiast always looking to go on the next adventure with her family and friends including running, hiking, cliff jumping, rock climbing, hang gliding and other athletic feats.
Sabrina holds a Bachelor of Science in Business Administration and Management and an MBA in Organizational Leadership from George Fox University.
Favorite Quote:
“The only legacy we leave behind is the impact we have on others.” — Unknown
R.O.G. Takeaway Tips:
Your legacy is an accumulation of the micro moments of generosity throughout your life.
Ask others, “How can I help?”
Share your time, talent and treasure.
Resources:
Sabrina Bailey on LinkedIn (in/Sabrina-Bailey-Change-Agent)
Sabrina Bailey Appointed to Run Wealth Solutions Business
Fintech Luminaries – Meet Sabrina Bailey of Refinitiv, an LSEG business
Wealth Tech Today Ep 109: Building A Globalized Data Strategy Delivered Locally with Sabrina Bailey, LSEG
Coming Next:
Episode 69: We will be joined by Jeff Christian.
Credits:
Sabrina Bailey, Sheep Jam Productions, Host Shannon Cassidy, Bridge Between, Inc.

Tuesday Jan 18, 2022
67. Dave Raymond - F.U.N. with the Phillie Phanatic
Tuesday Jan 18, 2022
Tuesday Jan 18, 2022
67. Dave Raymond - F.U.N. with the Phillie Phanatic
“A lot of the parts of my message for building on sustainable happiness go right to my clients about creating a valuable character brand because at the end, or as you said, a living breathing brand extension in the end, uh, this is a vehicle to be able to connect to your constituents, your fans.”
Guest Info:
Moving directly from college student to campy green furball, Dave Raymond pioneered the field of sports mascots as the first person to go out on the field as the world-renowned Phillie Phanatic. During his 16 years performing as the Phanatic in 48 states and five countries, Dave’s charismatic showmanship carried the Philadelphia Phillies to World Series victories and unimagined levels of popularity, sparking a revolution in the mascot industry. Leveraging the unique lessons he learned from the inside out (literally!), Dave made a seamless transition as an entrepreneur into the world of character branding and mascot development.
Since starting Raymond Entertainment Group nearly 20 years ago, he has designed and rehabilitated hundreds of character brands for Fortune 500 companies, sports teams, and colleges and universities. In 2005, he founded the Mascot Hall of Fame. In The Power of Fun! keynote, virtual events and best-selling book, Dave shares his “phantastic” story—and how his time as the Phanatic revealed to him fun’s transformative effects as the key to living a content, healthier and more productive life. While others have studied how to unlock the power of fun, Dave actually lived it. Now, he shares his simple-to-implement F.U.N. process for creating sustainable, long-lasting happiness—and building the life of your dreams.
Favorite Quote:
“Tell me something good!”
R.O.G. Takeaway Tips:
Build your personal character brand with these three elements: fearless, committed, and unique
To be even more productive, effective and successful, build F.U.N. in your next program, project or team session:
Force Fun
Universal
“No”
Resources:
DaveRaymondSpeaks.com
Dave Raymond's Newsletter
The Power of Fun by Dave Raymond
Coming Next:
Episode 68: We will be joined by Sabrina Bailey, Global Head of Wealth Solutions, London Stock Exchange Group
Credits:
Dave Raymond, Sheep Jam Productions, Host Shannon Cassidy, Bridge Between, Inc.

Tuesday Jan 11, 2022
66. Thomasina Williams - Taking Space
Tuesday Jan 11, 2022
Tuesday Jan 11, 2022
66. Thomasina Williams - Taking Space
“There's something about being outside in nature. If you can't go outside, just walk around the floor..movement. It's in our bodies and we've got to somehow get that anxiety and that tension out of our bodies.”
Guest Info:
Thomasina Williams partners with families to develop leaders. Working at the intersection of family business, family systems, and leadership development, she helps clients build multigenerational legacies of connected and capable families, who are engaged stewards of their resources. Clients have described her as their “high-beams,” lighting the way and guiding them through unfamiliar and uncomfortable territory.
An accomplished lawyer and philanthropy strategist, Thomasina is the founder of Sankofa Legacy Advisors. Her signature work gathers and guides Family Enterprise Women ( “The F.E.W."TM) to propel their leadership and legacy to the next level. Regardless of whether they own or work in the business, she helps them live into the fullness of who they are, simplify the complexities of family, and navigate the challenges of combining family and finances.
Thomasina was the first consultant Wells Fargo Private Bank hired to come in-house and play a leadership role in building a new line of business to help its ultra-high net worth clients navigate the family relationships side of wealth.
Thomasina goes beyond conventional approaches to help family members individually and collectively understand the relationship systems that drive their ability to sustain wealth and well-being across multiple generations. As a result of working with her, family members begin to see and explore possibilities they had not considered previously, leading to increased self-awareness, stronger family relationships, and reduced family financial risks.
Learning about the “shirtsleeves-to-shirtsleeves in three generations” phenomenon, by which 70 to 90 percent of families lose their wealth by the end of the third generation – and realizing that her own family was among these alarming statistics – fuels her passion to help families beat the odds and build enduring legacies.
Thomasina is an advisor to advisors within her field. She serves on the advisory board of privately held Purposeful Planning Institute, and on the board of nonprofit Galliard Family Business Advisor Institute. Beyond the field of family advising, she is a member of the advisory board of privately held Enterprising Women magazine, and is in the processing of transitioning from the board of nonprofit Search Inside Yourself Leadership Institute to the board of its new for-profit subsidiary.
Favorite Quote:
"Those to whom much is given, much is required."
R.O.G. Takeaway Tips:
Take Space for ourselves and others.
Questions we can ask ourselves:
Is this something I want to respond to now?
What might be the other influences and broader context?
How can I interpret this situation with generosity?
Give ourselves and others space and the benefit of the doubt.
Resources:
SankofaLegacyValues.com
Thomasina Williams on LinkedIn (in/Thomasina-h-Williams)
Coming Next:
Episode 67: We will be joined by Dave Raymond, the original Philly Phanatic!
Credits:
Thomasina Williams, Sheep Jam Productions, Host Shannon Cassidy, Bridge Between, Inc.

Generous Leadership
R.O.G. Return on Generosity, hosted by Shannon Cassidy, is a half hour interview show featuring innovative leaders who cultivate a culture of giving, belonging and thriving together. In each episode, we’ll explore how generosity at work impacts the bottom line and address cultural dynamics, team behavior and peer relationships.
Visit bridgebetween.com to learn more about generous leadership and host Shannon Cassidy.