R.O.G. Return on Generosity
A half hour interview show featuring innovative leaders who cultivate a culture of giving, belonging and thriving together. In each episode, we’ll explore how generosity at work impacts the bottom line and address cultural dynamics, team behavior and peer relationships.
Episodes

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"Everybody has value to give."
“It’s not a game breaker, it’s a game changer.”
“How are you doing that differently? How are you going to stand out from the crowd?”
Episode summary |
In this episode of the ROG Return on Generosity podcast, host Shannon Cassidy interviews Yvette Thornton, a registered patent agent and advocate for innovation and women in leadership. Yvette shares her journey from growing up on a farm in Virginia to her career in intellectual property, emphasizing the importance of collaboration, empowerment, and generosity. She discusses her advocacy for the National Down Syndrome Society, her experiences in patent law, and the lessons learned from her upbringing that shape her leadership style. The conversation also touches on navigating career transitions, the power of community, and the significance of recognizing one's own value and strengths.
R.O.G. Takeaway Tips |
Leadership is about recognizing and valuing everyone's contributions.
Empowering women in leadership roles is crucial for industry transformation.
Advocacy for individuals with Down syndrome is about recognizing their abilities.
Intellectual property protects innovations and encourages creativity.
Listening and asking the right questions are key skills in patent law.
Transitioning careers involves self-discovery and recognizing one's strengths.
Generosity can come from unexpected places and has a ripple effect.
It's important to grieve the loss of a job and give oneself time to heal.
You are enough; own your strengths and contributions.
Chapters |
00:00 Introduction to Yvette Thornton and Her Journey
03:20 Growing Up on the Farm: Roots and Values
06:16 Influence of Family and Community on Leadership
08:59 Empowering Women in Leadership through WICT
11:57 Advocacy for Down Syndrome Awareness
14:48 Understanding Intellectual Property and Patents
15:43 The Journey to Becoming a Patent Agent
18:23 Innovations and Patents: The Impact of Ideas
21:21 Listening and Questioning: Keys to Innovation
23:10 Navigating Project Management and Innovation
24:34 Advice for Innovators: Protecting Your Ideas
26:34 Understanding Patents and Intellectual Property
27:48 The Power of Generosity in Professional Transitions
31:14 Embracing Career Transitions and Self-Discovery
35:27 Overcoming Self-Doubt and Embracing Your Value
39:00 The Importance of Asking for Help
42:15 Empowerment and Believing in Your Worth
43:21 Recharge and Leadership Style
Guest Bio |
Yvette Thornton, a registered patent agent, is the driving force behind Clarke Innovations LLC, where she advises organizations on innovation strategies, operational improvements and intellectual property (IP). Her work focuses on the intersection of engineering and IP, expanding access to patenting, and fostering innovation-driven cultures.
In her previous role as Director of Patent Development at Comcast NBCUniversal, Yvette collaborated with engineers and senior leaders to identify and capture innovation across the company. Yvette's impact extended beyond idea generation; she developed internal patent process, launched an Employee Recognition Program and created “Girl Storm” a program supporting women in patenting.
Yvette began her IP career as a Primary Patent Examiner at the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.She holds a M.S. in Chemistry from the University of Virginia and a B.S. from Norfolk State University, where she was a Dozoretz National Institute for Mathematics and Applied Sciences (DNIMAS) Scholar.Based in the Philadelphia area, Yvette is active in The WICT Network: Greater Philadelphia, an advocate for the National Down Syndrome Society and enjoys reading, drawing, and spending time with her family.
Guest Resources:
https://clarkeinnovations.com/
Bridge Between Resources:
5 Degree Change Course
Free N.D.I. Network Diversity Index
Free Generosity Quiz
Credits: Yvette Thornton, Host Shannon Cassidy, Bridge Between, Inc.
Coming Next: Please join us next week, Episode 237, Special Guest, Brett Brackett.

Tuesday Jun 03, 2025
235. The Art of “Relationshipping” with Lani Nelson-Zlupko
Tuesday Jun 03, 2025
Tuesday Jun 03, 2025
“Relationship is a noun, but 'relationshipping' is a verb and it takes a lot of agency and some skill.”
"You have to know what you want."
"Pause is power."
Episode summary |
In this episode of the ROG Return on Generosity podcast, executive coach and psychotherapist Dr. Lani Nelson-Zlupko describes the difference between relationships and “relationshipping”, sharing insights on effective communication, emotional intelligence, and the importance of accountability in relationships to build meaningful connections. She introduces the MOVE method as a practical framework for navigating difficult conversations, emphasizing the value of self-awareness, understanding needs, and negotiating with empathy. The episode highlights key concepts like relationship hygiene, rehearsing communication strategies, and “losing well” as essential tools for personal and professional growth. Together, Lani and Shannon discuss common barriers to effective relationshipping and connection—including ego, fear, and pride—and offer actionable strategies for improving interpersonal dynamics and achieving deeper, more authentic relationships.
R.O.G. Takeaway Tips |
Relationships require agency and active engagement.
Relationship is a noun, but relationshipping is a verb.
Understanding what you want is crucial in relationships.
Pause is a powerful tool in communication.
Navigating needs involves accountability and clarity.
The MOVE method helps in effective communication.
Rehearsing conversations can lead to better outcomes.
Expect defensiveness in interpersonal interactions.
Losing well is part of maintaining relationships.
Positivity is essential in healthy relationships.
Collaboration is key to resolving conflicts.
Navigating difficult conversations requires calmness and clarity.
Understanding negotiation dynamics is crucial before engaging in discussions.
Time is essential for changing relationship dynamics and habits.
Apologies are vital for repairing relationships and require accountability.
Healthy relationships are built on reciprocity and mutual contribution.
Effective communication of needs is key to relationship satisfaction.
Overcoming stagnation in relationships involves addressing fears and barriers.
Identifying barriers like pride and ego can help in personal growth.
Maintaining relationship hygiene involves positivity and curiosity.
A small change can lead to significant progress in relationships.
Chapters |
00:00 Introduction to Dr. Lani Nelson-Zlupko
01:50 The Importance of Relationships
04:28 Understanding "Relation-shipping" as a Verb
07:08 Navigating Needs and Accountability in Relationships
09:46 The MOVE Method: A Framework for Effective Communication
16:45 Rehearsing Conversations for Better Outcomes
20:59 The Value of Losing Well in Relationships
26:53 Persisting Through Defensive Reactions
30:40 Navigating Difficult Conversations
32:29 Understanding Negotiation Dynamics
33:58 The Importance of Time in Relationships
35:22 The Art of Apology
38:09 Building Healthy Relationships
40:16 Reciprocity in Relationships
42:21 Communicating Needs Effectively
45:01 Overcoming Stagnation in Relationships
46:20 Identifying Barriers to Progress
49:42 Maintaining Relationship Hygiene
53:25 Rapid Fire Insights
Guest Bio |
Dr. Lani Nelson-Zlupko is an executive coach and psychotherapist with over 25 years of success bringing skills for change management and human resilience to clients and companies around the world. Lani excels in understanding human behavior. She studies why people get stuck and how they move forward.
Dr. Nelson's data-driven strategies enable people to elevate the best in themselves and elicit the best in others, with a keen eye to the very real psychological, interpersonal and institutional challenges they must navigate. Her tools for human motivation, collaboration, coping, resilience, accountability, and cohesion have empowered individuals, families, teams, and companies to move forward.
Lani earned her bachelor’s degree from Harvard and her master’s and doctorate degrees from the University of Pennsylvania School for Social Policy and Practice. She served as adjunct faculty at the University of Pennsylvania for over twenty-five years, is published in leading scientific journals, is a TEDx speaker and Fortune 500 keynote presenter.
Guest Resources:
3 Strategies to Promote Healthy Working Relationships
Leading Without Authority by Keith Ferrazzi
The Right Kind of Wrong by Amy Edmonson
TEDx: Staying Stuck or Moving Forward
Move Forward by Dr. Lani Nelson-Zlupko
Mindset by Carol Dweck
Bridge Between Resources:
5 Degree Change Course
Free N.D.I. Network Diversity Index
Free Generosity Quiz
Credits: Lani Nelson-Zlupko, Host Shannon Cassidy, Bridge Between, Inc.
Coming Next: Please join us next week, Episode 236, Special Guest, Yvette Thornton.

Tuesday May 27, 2025
Tuesday May 27, 2025
"I'm so grateful to be alive.""You have a life, let's freaking go!"
Episode summary |
In this episode of the ROG Return on Generosity podcast, host Shannon Cassidy speaks with fitness entrepreneur Sydney Cummings Houdyshell about her journey from collegiate athlete to a leading figure in the fitness industry. Sydney shares her experiences overcoming personal tragedies, the importance of mental health, and her mission to provide free workouts to empower individuals globally. The conversation delves into the significance of generosity in leadership, the building of her fitness media company Royal Change, and the joys and challenges of motherhood. Sydney emphasizes the need for self-care and gratitude, encouraging listeners to pursue their passions and recognize their potential.
R.O.G. Takeaway Tips |
Mental health is foundational to physical health and fitness.
Generosity in leadership creates a supportive community.
Surrounding yourself with positivity is crucial for growth.
Pouring into yourself first enables you to help others.
Gratitude can transform your perspective on challenges.
Chapters |
00:00 Gratitude and Moving Forward
05:06 Embracing Life's Opportunities
07:49 The Importance of Mental Health
09:58 Healthy, Happy, Strong: A Holistic Approach
11:18 Surroundings and Self-Talk
13:23 Pouring Into Yourself
14:58 Generosity in Leadership
17:38 Behind the Scenes of Sydney Squad
19:19 Building a Community: Sydney Squad and Apparel
22:50 The Mission of Free Workouts
Guest Bio |
Sydney Cummings Houdyshell is a nationally certified personal trainer, fitness nutrition specialist, and the founder of Royal Change, a global fitness brand dedicated to making health and wellness accessible to all. With over 1.7 million subscribers on her YouTube channel, Sydney delivers free, high-quality workouts every single day, inspiring millions to achieve their fitness goals right from their living rooms.
Her journey to becoming a fitness powerhouse was anything but ordinary. Growing up as a small-town athlete, Sydney’s passion for sports laid the foundation for her career in personal training. But it was her resilience in the face of personal tragedy—including the heartbreaking loss of her brother and surviving a traumatic shooting incident—that truly shaped her mission. Sydney channeled her pain into purpose, building Royal Change as a beacon of strength, positivity, and community for people around the world.
Sydney’s philosophy goes beyond physical fitness—it's about authenticity, resilience, and showing up every day with purpose and heart. Her inspiring story and commitment to empowering others have made her a sought-after voice in the fitness industry and beyond.
Guest Resources:
https://royalchange.fit/
https://www.youtube.com/@sydneycummingshoudyshell
https://www.instagram.com/sydneycummings_/?hl=en
https://x.com/sydneycummings_?lang=en
Bridge Between Resources:
5 Degree Change Course
Free N.D.I. Network Diversity Index
Free Generosity Quiz
Credits: Sydney Cummings Houdyshell, Host Shannon Cassidy, Bridge Between, Inc.
Coming Next: Please join us next week, Episode 235, Special Guest, Lani Nelson-Zlupko.

Tuesday May 20, 2025
Tuesday May 20, 2025
“It's important to think bigger than what you know is possible”
Episode summary |
In this episode of the ROG Return on Generosity podcast, host Shannon Cassidy interviews Sydney Cummings Houdyshell, a certified personal trainer and founder of Royal Change. Sydney shares her journey from a small-town athlete to a global fitness influencer, emphasizing the importance of authenticity, resilience, and community. She discusses her transition from sports to personal training, the creation of her YouTube channel, and the impact of personal tragedies, including the loss of her brother and a traumatic shooting incident, on her mission to help others. Sydney's story is one of overcoming adversity and inspiring others to pursue their passions with heart and dedication.
R.O.G. Takeaway Tips |
Everyone deserves someone who genuinely cares about them.
Authenticity in fitness is more impactful than perfection.
It's important to think bigger than what you know is possible.
Staying grounded amidst success is essential for personal fulfillment.
Chapters |
00:00 Introduction to Sydney Cummings
03:07 The Journey of Authenticity
06:09 Overcoming Challenges and Finding Purpose
09:04 The Birth of Royal Change
12:09 Navigating Personal Loss and Resilience
14:56 The Impact of Community and Generosity
17:46 The Shooting Incident and Its Aftermath
21:12 Gratitude and Moving Forward
Guest Bio |
Sydney Cummings Houdyshell is a nationally certified personal trainer, fitness nutrition specialist, and the founder of Royal Change, a global fitness brand dedicated to making health and wellness accessible to all. With over 1.7 million subscribers on her YouTube channel, Sydney delivers free, high-quality workouts every single day, inspiring millions to achieve their fitness goals right from their living rooms.
Her journey to becoming a fitness powerhouse was anything but ordinary. Growing up as a small-town athlete, Sydney’s passion for sports laid the foundation for her career in personal training. But it was her resilience in the face of personal tragedy—including the heartbreaking loss of her brother and surviving a traumatic shooting incident—that truly shaped her mission. Sydney channeled her pain into purpose, building Royal Change as a beacon of strength, positivity, and community for people around the world.
Sydney’s philosophy goes beyond physical fitness—it's about authenticity, resilience, and showing up every day with purpose and heart. Her inspiring story and commitment to empowering others have made her a sought-after voice in the fitness industry and beyond.
Guest Resources:
https://royalchange.fit/
https://www.youtube.com/@sydneycummingshoudyshell
https://www.instagram.com/sydneycummings_/?hl=en
https://x.com/sydneycummings_?lang=en
Bridge Between Resources:
5 Degree Change Course
Free N.D.I. Network Diversity Index
Free Generosity Quiz
Credits: Sydney Cummings Houdyshell, Host Shannon Cassidy, Bridge Between, Inc.
Coming Next: Please join us next week, Episode 234, Special Guest, Sydney Cummings Houdyshell - Part 2.

Tuesday May 13, 2025
232. Crushing the Soul Crushers with Tim Leake
Tuesday May 13, 2025
Tuesday May 13, 2025
“Making progress is soul-crusher free."
"We can control how we react to it."
"Assume positive intent."
Episode summary |
In this conversation, Tim Leake, founder of Let's Lightbulb, discusses how to make work enjoyable and productive. He shares insights on creativity, collaboration, and the importance of humor in high-stakes environments. Tim emphasizes the need for leaders to be generous and supportive, creating a culture where everyone can thrive. He also highlights practical strategies for overcoming soul-crushing moments in the workplace and the ripple effect of generosity in leadership.
R.O.G. Takeaway Tips |
Creativity and speed are unfair advantages in today's fast-paced world.
Assuming positive intent can transform team dynamics.
Humor and levity can create a psychologically safe environment.
Generosity in leadership fosters deeper connections and opportunities.
Collaboration requires structure to be effective and efficient.
Soul crushers are often invisible but can be addressed through proactive measures.
Listening is a critical skill for effective leadership.
The more value you give away, the more it comes back to you.
Creativity is essential for solving problems in any field.
Chapters |
00:00 Introduction to Tim Leake and Soulcrushers
01:41 The Courage to Create: Tim's TEDx Experience
05:24 The Concept of Soul Crushers and Their Impact
10:25 Empowering Work: Making Work Fun Again
15:58 Practical Strategies to Combat Soul Crushers
19:36 Creativity as a Core Element in Problem Solving
21:30 Leveraging Humor and Levity in Business
24:20 The Multifaceted Benefits of Fun in Work
25:51 The Impact of Fear on Communication
28:30 Creating Psychological Safety in Teams
32:45 The Power of Generosity in Leadership
37:37 Building Relationships Through Generosity
44:18 The Ripple Effect of Generosity
46:43 Sparking Creativity in Teams
48:21 The Importance of Listening in Leadership
Guest Bio |
Tim is a founder, facilitator, and crusher-of-soul-crushers at Let’s Lightbulb — a consultancy that helps leadership teams accomplish twice as much in half the time, through creative and strategic workshop facilitation. He specializes in running High-ROI Off-Sites and Solution Sprints for executive and leadership teams.Additionally, he’s an Executive Trainer at AJ&Smart, often called the world’s best facilitation training company.He's been using facilitation, creativity, and innovative thinking to help businesses drive revenue for over 25 years.Before creating a company of his own, Tim spent nearly a decade as the Chief Marketing & Innovation Officer for RPA, one of the largest independent agencies in the U.S.
Prior to RPA, he was a global innovation and transformation facilitator and speaker with Hyper Island — helping companies (including General Mills, Target, Ikea and many more) thrive in a constantly changing digital world.He began his career on the creative side of the advertising industry, where he was a Creative Director & Director of Creative Innovation at Saatchi & Saatchi NY, and got his start at TBWA/Chiat/Day, as a copywriter working on world-famous efforts like the Energizer Bunny and Taco Bell Chihuahua campaigns.
He’s a frequent speaker at international events including the Cannes Festival of Creativity (France), Hyper Island (Sweden), CPH Transform (Copenhagen), Dani Komunikacija (Croatia), AToMiC (Canada), Advertising Week (USA), SXSW (the country of Texas), and more.
Guest Resources:
www.letslightbulb.com
Humor, Seriously by Jennifer Aaker and Naomi Bagdonas
Humor That Works by Andrew Tarvin
Bridge Between Resources:
5 Degree Change Course
Free N.D.I. Network Diversity Index
Free Generosity Quiz
Credits: Tim Leake, Host Shannon Cassidy, Bridge Between, Inc.
Coming Next: Please join us next week, Episode 233, Special Guest, Sydney Cummings Houdyshell.

Tuesday May 06, 2025
231. The Art of Self-Management in a Busy World with Jason Henkel
Tuesday May 06, 2025
Tuesday May 06, 2025
"Feelings fully felt is bliss."
"Breath is always free."
"Self-augmentation is the key."
Episode summary |
In this episode of the Return on Generosity podcast, host Shannon Cassidy speaks with Jason Henkel, founder of Focus to Evolve, about achieving balance and productivity without burnout. Jason shares his journey from a hectic corporate life to discovering the importance of self-management and centeredness. He emphasizes the need for leaders to create high-performance teams and the role of architectural calendaring in productivity. The conversation also explores the potential of AI in augmenting thought processes and the unique strengths of individuals with ADHD. Ultimately, Jason advocates for a shift in workplace culture towards generosity and self-care, encouraging listeners to redefine productivity and prioritize their well-being.
R.O.G. Takeaway Tips |
Self-management needs to come before time management.
The hustle culture is outdated; balance is key to thriving.
Feelings fully felt lead to a blissful life experience.
Creating a centered atmosphere can positively influence teams.
Architectural calendaring helps in organizing tasks effectively.
Deep immersion sessions can unlock higher productivity levels.
AI can be used for thought augmentation and identifying blind spots.
ADHD can be harnessed as a superpower when managed well.
Generosity towards oneself is crucial for personal growth.
Redefining productivity involves focusing on meaningful outcomes rather than busyness.
Chapters |
00:00 Introduction to Balanced Thriving
03:09 Jason's Journey from Corporate Hustle to Balance
06:06 The Importance of Self-Management
09:16 Illuminating a Path to Meaningful Output
12:04 The Power of Stillness and Centeredness
14:56 Creating a High-Performance Team Environment
17:48 Architectural Calendaring for Productivity
20:42 Deep Immersion in Balanced Thriving
23:47 Harnessing Flow State for Enhanced Focus
26:42 Managing Distractions in a Digital World
29:42 Leveraging AI for Self-Augmentation
30:09 Exploring Blind Spots and Self-Awareness
30:37 Augmenting Thought and Learning with AI
33:00 The Future of Work and AI's Role
34:31 Shifts for Enhanced Productivity
36:53 The Importance of Boundaries and Self-Care
38:24 Redefining Busy: From Frenetic to Deliberate
40:43 Creating Evolved Workplace Cultures
43:11 Return on Generosity: Redefining Success
50:00 Unlearning and Embracing Authenticity
Guest Bio |
Jason Henkel is a speaker, mindfulness coach, and the founder of Focus to Evolve, a company dedicated to helping individuals and teams increase clarity, productivity, and presence in both work and life. With a background in corporate strategy and performance optimization, Jason combines practical tools with mindfulness-based practices to guide clients toward sustainable, values-driven success.
Through his coaching, workshops, and keynotes, Jason empowers leaders and professionals to quiet the noise, reduce overwhelm, and reconnect with their deeper purpose—what he calls evolving through focus. His work is grounded in the belief that small, intentional shifts in awareness can lead to powerful transformations in mindset, leadership, and overall well-being.
Jason has worked with organizations across industries and brings a grounded, accessible approach to every conversation. Whether he’s guiding a mindfulness session or leading an executive team through a strategy reset, Jason is committed to helping people show up more fully for their work, their teams, and their lives.
Guest Resources:
Website: https://www.focustoevolve.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasehenkel/
Online Course: https://www.focustoevolve.com/academy
Bridge Between Resources:
5 Degree Change Course
Free N.D.I. Network Diversity Index
Free Generosity Quiz
Credits: Jason Henkel, Host Shannon Cassidy, Bridge Between, Inc.
Coming Next: Please join us next week, Episode 232, Special Guest, Tim Leake.

Tuesday Apr 29, 2025
230. The Power of Kindness with Nomi Bergman
Tuesday Apr 29, 2025
Tuesday Apr 29, 2025
"Share your likes before your concerns."
"Life is not a dress rehearsal."
Episode summary |
In this engaging conversation, Nomi Bergman shares her journey from a challenging childhood in athletics to becoming a successful leader in the technology sector. She emphasizes the importance of kindness, generosity, and positive intent in leadership, drawing from her experiences at Bright House Networks. Nomi discusses the significance of creating a supportive work culture, the value of timely feedback, and the power of personal growth through action. She also reflects on her family background, the lessons learned from mistakes, and the impact of mentorship. Throughout the conversation, Nomi inspires listeners to embrace their authentic selves and to lead with kindness.
R.O.G. Takeaway Tips |
Generosity in leadership fosters a positive work culture and builds trust.
Sharing likes before concerns enhances team collaboration and morale.
Kindness is a powerful leadership trait that can lead to greater success.
Assuming positive intent can help navigate workplace challenges.
Learning from mistakes and taking corrective action is crucial for personal growth.
Creating a culture where employees can say 'yes' leads to better customer service.
Timely feedback is essential for effective communication and improvement.
Everyone has a unique story to share that can inspire others.
Life is not a dress rehearsal; take action and live authentically.
Chapters |
00:00 Introduction to Nomi Bergman
02:04 Nomi's Early Life and Background
04:25 Overcoming Challenges in Athletics
06:56 The Importance of Generosity in Leadership
12:11 Creating a Positive Work Culture
14:17 The Hello Friend Campaign at Bright House
16:44 Assuming Positive Intent in Leadership
17:41 Learning from Mistakes and Taking Corrective Action
20:56 The Benefits of Kindness and Collaboration
22:19 The Shift from Right Answers to Teamwork
23:07 Reinventing Leadership Style through Kindness
25:07 The Strength of Kindness in Leadership
26:52 Delivering Feedback with Kindness and Clarity
29:31 The Power of Humility in Leadership
32:34 Finding Your Voice and Sharing Your Story
34:36 The Importance of Action and Kindness
41:53 Life Lessons: No Dress Rehearsal
42:20 The Lasting Impact of Kindness
Guest Bio |
Nomi Bergman is the President of Advance/Newhouse Investment Partnership, where she brings visionary leadership to a portfolio of innovative companies in the technology and media sectors. She previously served as President of Bright House Networks, where she led over 8,500 employees and helped grow the company into the sixth-largest cable operator in the U.S. before its merger with Charter and Time Warner Cable. With more than 25 years of experience, Nomi is a seasoned operator, technologist, investor, and advisor known for developing strategies that elevate product delivery and customer experience. She began her career in Management Information Consulting at Arthur Andersen, building a foundation in analytical thinking and systems optimization.
Nomi has been recognized with the CableFAX Lifetime Achievement Award and was inducted into The Cable Center’s Hall of Fame in 2018. She is deeply committed to inclusive leadership and mentorship, serving on various boards and supporting initiatives that advance equity and opportunity. A passionate advocate for human-centered innovation, Nomi brings both heart and strategy to every endeavor. She is also a proud wife and mother of three daughters, balancing executive leadership with family values at the core of her life and work.
Bridge Between Resources:
5 Degree Change Course
Free N.D.I. Network Diversity Index
Free Generosity Quiz
Credits: Nomi Bergman, Host Shannon Cassidy, Bridge Between, Inc.
Coming Next: Please join us next week, Episode 231, Special Guest, Jason Henkel.

Tuesday Apr 22, 2025
229. Breaking Barriers in the World of Journalism with May Lee
Tuesday Apr 22, 2025
Tuesday Apr 22, 2025
"Find joy every day."
Episode summary |
Susan Jin Davis and May Lee explore the themes of generosity, identity, and resilience shaped by their immigrant experiences. They discuss the challenges of growing up as children of immigrants, the impact of cultural concepts like Han, and the transformative power of loss. May shares her journey as a journalist of color, emphasizing the importance of diversity in media and the need for education to combat stereotypes. The discussion also highlights the significance of personal connections and the role of platforms like their podcast, 'Shoes Off Inside,' in fostering dialogue and understanding.
R.O.G. Takeaway Tips |
Generosity is a core value that shapes our identities.
The immigrant experience often involves significant sacrifice and resilience.
Childhood challenges can lead to a complex understanding of identity.
The concept of Han reflects deep-seated pain and resilience in Korean culture.
Transforming pain into purpose can empower individuals to help others.
Loss teaches us the importance of cherishing loved ones.
Intergenerational trauma impacts our identities and experiences.
Diversity in journalism is crucial for accurate representation.
Education can fill gaps in understanding cultural histories.
Creating platforms for dialogue fosters connection and understanding.
Chapters |
00:00 Introduction and Connection
02:50 The Immigrant Experience and Generosity
05:28 Childhood Challenges and Identity Struggles
11:44 The Impact of Racism and the Concept of Han
13:56 Transforming Pain into Purpose
16:34 The Loss of a Parent and Its Lessons
18:30 The Importance of Presence and Connection
19:43 Intergenerational Trauma and Cultural Identity
21:36 Navigating Journalism as a Woman of Color
24:23 Facing Otherism: A Personal Journey
28:13 The Importance of Allyship and Diversity Efforts
32:20 Creating Awareness: The Evolution of Asian Americans in Media
38:04 Shoes Off Inside: Cultural Practices and Podcasting
43:06 Using Platforms for Social Change
51:25 Curiosity and Purpose: Finding Fulfillment in Action
Guest Bio |
May Lee is an award-winning broadcast journalist who has been both a US based, and international anchor, host, correspondent and producer having worked for a variety of media outlets including NHK, CNBC, Oxygen Media and CNN where she was appointed as the first Korean American anchor. May has broken down many other barriers throughout her career and continues to do so with her production company, Lotus Media House, which currently produces “Shoes Off Inside”, a vodcast (video-podcast) that explores the API experience and beyond with hosts May Lee as well as veteran actors Kelly Hu and Tamlyn Tomita. May’s work in API activism and education was recognized by Forbes when she was named one of Forbes 50 over 50 women leading the way in impact in 2021. Along with her media projects and activism, May served as adjunct instructor at USC’s Annenberg School of Communication and Journalism and Artistic Assistant Professor at Dodge College of Film and Media Arts at Chapman University. May’s many other previous professional roles include LA-based correspondent and host for international network CGTN-America, talk show host for Oxygen Media founded by Oprah Winfrey, and lead anchor for CNBC in Singapore. May is a graduate of Mills College in Oakland, CA where she attained her BA in communications. She has authored two books, “May Lee, Live and in Person”, originally published by John Wiley, and “So You Want to be On-Air? A Guide to Anchoring, Hosting, Voiceovers and more”, published by Cognella, Inc., which was released in July of 2023. May is an active board member of East West Players, the longest running Asian American theatre in the U.S. as well as Miss Porter’s School, a prestigious boarding school in Farmington, Connecticut that educates, inspires and empowers the young women to become the leaders of tomorrow.
Resources:
IG @mayleeshow and @shoesoffinsidemkt
YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@shoesoffinsidemkt
LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/mayhlee/
Website lotusmediahouse.com
Podcast - Shoes Off Inside MKT
Free N.D.I. Network Diversity Index
Free Generosity Quiz
Credits: May Lee, Host: Susan Jin Davis, Bridge Between, Inc.
Coming Next: Please join us next week, Episode 230, Special Guest, Nomi Bergman.

Generous Leadership
R.O.G. Return on Generosity, hosted by Shannon Cassidy, is a half hour interview show featuring innovative leaders who cultivate a culture of giving, belonging and thriving together. In each episode, we’ll explore how generosity at work impacts the bottom line and address cultural dynamics, team behavior and peer relationships.
Visit bridgebetween.com to learn more about generous leadership and host Shannon Cassidy.